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Sunday, December 23, 2007
Wednesday, December 12, 2007
I'm On Welfare Yo!
So aparantly the debate of the month is "Welfare Epics". Its all over the forums, and you see it in trade channel all day. It is now popping across the blog community.
Meg is talking about it
So is BOK
It seems that the debate is really getting everyone up in arms. Expecialy raiders. The big debate seems to be over a lack of progression in arena/pvp and an ease of getting something purple to wear. Several people are complaining that under the old rank system pvp was better and gear was more representative of skill. Now former HWL's and GM's don't get me wrong but...
HELL NO!
All level 60 HWL meant was that you either spent 16 hours a day for weeks at a time in front of your computer in AV or AFK botting your way through AV. This wasn't any skill. Was it progression? Sure the more time you spent the more gear you got but to be honest that is the worst gear progression ever. You're rewarded for nothing more than time spent. This is tantimount to recieving a huge pay increase at work just for showing up and staying late, it doesnt matter if hey you get anything done!
The advent of arena allowed PvP players with better skill to get better gear than someone who AFK'd in AV all day and got their pvp blue set. Granted one can still bank 200 points a week from a bottomed out team but lets look realisticaly:
2v2 1300's rating gets you 250 points a week I believe. Gloves wousld take you 5 weeks to get. Weapons would take nearly 3 and a half months for a 2hander. Does this really seem like a welfare arena farmer gets to stack on a ton of s3 gear? Nope he gets one shiney purple for his hours of time. He could have also farmed for crafted epics or gold and purchased crafted epics from a T5/T6 guild (I've seen non raider LW's with the BT crafted shoulders).
Meanwhile if a person is on a successful team those gloves take one or two weeks to get. They do well and are rewarded for being GOOD not for spending TIME.
Now raiders seem to criticise that a good player can gear up very quickly via arena. I fail to see the problem. As a hunter, I could literaly sit in a raid and auto+steadyshot spam and over months learn to avoid xxx aoe or stop dpsing when xxx comes and eventualy get a good deal of purple loot.
Now lets be honest. For a hunter is downing Leotheras excessivly chalenging except if you do not have the gear to DPS hard enough?
Nope pew pew pew stop pew pew pew. Pull pet back pew pew pew.
Should this hunter rewarded as quickly as a hunter who is exceptional and is able to win consistantly in PvP against opponents who can react on the fly?
I think not, I think faster rewards for more challenging play is a good thing. I think that the progression method works only for the old pvp system where time was rewarded as well as raiding and honor farming where primarily time is rewarded.
Now granted I have the utmost respect for the dedication and time raiders put in, heck I did it for the first 4 months of being 70! Organizing 25 people is a challenge in its own. But I think due to the different nature, the pvp reward system is good.
What does everyone else think? Time is the most important thing to be rewarded or should ability be also?
Meg is talking about it
So is BOK
It seems that the debate is really getting everyone up in arms. Expecialy raiders. The big debate seems to be over a lack of progression in arena/pvp and an ease of getting something purple to wear. Several people are complaining that under the old rank system pvp was better and gear was more representative of skill. Now former HWL's and GM's don't get me wrong but...
HELL NO!
All level 60 HWL meant was that you either spent 16 hours a day for weeks at a time in front of your computer in AV or AFK botting your way through AV. This wasn't any skill. Was it progression? Sure the more time you spent the more gear you got but to be honest that is the worst gear progression ever. You're rewarded for nothing more than time spent. This is tantimount to recieving a huge pay increase at work just for showing up and staying late, it doesnt matter if hey you get anything done!
The advent of arena allowed PvP players with better skill to get better gear than someone who AFK'd in AV all day and got their pvp blue set. Granted one can still bank 200 points a week from a bottomed out team but lets look realisticaly:
2v2 1300's rating gets you 250 points a week I believe. Gloves wousld take you 5 weeks to get. Weapons would take nearly 3 and a half months for a 2hander. Does this really seem like a welfare arena farmer gets to stack on a ton of s3 gear? Nope he gets one shiney purple for his hours of time. He could have also farmed for crafted epics or gold and purchased crafted epics from a T5/T6 guild (I've seen non raider LW's with the BT crafted shoulders).
Meanwhile if a person is on a successful team those gloves take one or two weeks to get. They do well and are rewarded for being GOOD not for spending TIME.
Now raiders seem to criticise that a good player can gear up very quickly via arena. I fail to see the problem. As a hunter, I could literaly sit in a raid and auto+steadyshot spam and over months learn to avoid xxx aoe or stop dpsing when xxx comes and eventualy get a good deal of purple loot.
Now lets be honest. For a hunter is downing Leotheras excessivly chalenging except if you do not have the gear to DPS hard enough?
Nope pew pew pew stop pew pew pew. Pull pet back pew pew pew.
Should this hunter rewarded as quickly as a hunter who is exceptional and is able to win consistantly in PvP against opponents who can react on the fly?
I think not, I think faster rewards for more challenging play is a good thing. I think that the progression method works only for the old pvp system where time was rewarded as well as raiding and honor farming where primarily time is rewarded.
Now granted I have the utmost respect for the dedication and time raiders put in, heck I did it for the first 4 months of being 70! Organizing 25 people is a challenge in its own. But I think due to the different nature, the pvp reward system is good.
What does everyone else think? Time is the most important thing to be rewarded or should ability be also?
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