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Thursday, November 1, 2007

Questions WOOHOO

Ok so first off I do plan on setting an email up for this blog to answer reader questions. I promise once I get some time to fiddle with blogger more I will set it up. Most likely this weekend.

Anyhow I saw a good question in a comment so I wanted to answer it fast:

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Guitgoin said...
Hey Shift, I have a question not necessarily associated with this post, but I couldn't find where I could reach you at. I'm looking to switch to a full PvP spec here pretty soon, and I looked at yours for some guidance. If I remember right, you took 3/3 in Careful Aim, instead of more points in Ranged Weapon Specialization. Is there a reason for this? I'd think the damage increase would be more from the extra few percent instead of 45% of your intellect, especially when you consider a PvP spec has a generally low intellect. Thanks for your help and also for a great blog on hunter PvP
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You're 100% right my spec does have careful aim over RWS. If you're a PvE'er or an old school 0/31/20 hunter you're going WTFHELLSHIFTTUSK.

I used to PVP with RWS. Then I took a look at some 1900 hunters and their specs and saw CA over RWS (aside from 1 point to get to the next tier). I followed blindly now lets see if its right!

So Shift Has 170 Intel Logged out. I will be going up alot in 2.3 but lets work with 170 so CA gives me 76.5AP. This is 5.4DPS on autoshoot only.

RWS would give me 3% more dps. My autoshot DPS is 269.3 with neither of these talents filled yet. RWS points would give me 8.079 dps autoshot. So it looks as though RWS would be a better choice.

But we all know a hunter autoshots far less in arena where he is frequently running around for freedom from dps. This is where RWS starts to drop out.

For arcane shot the dmg equation is:
ArcaneShotDamage = DamagePercentageBonus*RWSMod*(ArcaneShotBonus + RAP*0.15)

So as RWS +3 PTS:
=1.04*(273 + (1644*.15) = 540.4

As CA +3 PTS:
=1.01*(273+(1720*.15) = 536.31

For multishot:
MultiShotDamage = DamagePercentageBonus*RWSMod*(AmmoDPS*WeaponSpeed + (RAP/14)*2.8 + WeaponDamage + ScopeDamage + MultiShotBonus)

So RWS+3PTS:
= 1.04*(32*2.9+((1644/14)*2.8) + (83.3*2.9) + 0 + 205 )
= 1.04(92.8+328+241.57+205)
= 1.04(867.37)
= 902 DMG Multishot

And Finally CA +3PTS:
= 1.01*(32*2.9+((1720/14)*2.8) + (83.3*2.9) + 0 + 205 )
= 1.01(92.8+344+241.57+205)
= 1.01(883.37)
= 892 DMG Multishot

SOOOO looks like at 170 Intel CA is a no go and Shift needs to visit his hunter trainer again. Now with the added scaling to serpent sting and traps CA may get better but I'm not sure. I'll obviously look at it again as i get more Intel with 2.3 purchases. Anyhow Guitgoin good thing to look at and now you know where to put your points!

+10 dmg on multi +4arcane /cry stupid bliz forums!

3 comments:

Guitgoin said...

Awesome! Thanks Shift, guess it didn't turn out to be a WHOLE lot of difference, but then again any little bit helps!!

Shifttusk said...

Sure but the one time someone has 20HP left after your multishot crit and gets healed to full you bet you'd be freaking out if you read the post.

:P

Anonymous said...

Finally a Hunter PvP Blog! I read BRK for PVE info but ive recently started pvping more and finding a good source for pvp tips for hunters, from a proven source (always respected your posts on worldofwar.net fourms), has not been fruitful. Keep up the good work.

Gyrgen - Skullcrusher